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  30 Days... It's hard to believe, although everything seems to be pulling together. Much thanks to everyone involved in the organizing of this event, especially Dennis and Tashina!

    I'm sure everyone has been waiting for the topic of the Longest Walk's use of automobiles to arise and here it is. I initially had my reserves about bringing this up (due to the circumstances in which call for such use) although I feel that we should be prepared to answer to this and even prepared to avoid such confusion.

    So if the paradox isn't yet clear, it is that we are walking to show and encourage respect for Mother Earth (among other issues), though we are in a position which requires our leaving a trail of pollution (C02).

    The reason I am posting this topic on the forum is because it would be great to hear from everyone on this. It would be impossible for us to do this walk without cars although it would be amazing if we found a way to do so in the future.

    My thoughts at this time are that we look into biodiesel. It is a cleaner burning diesel equivalent that is not dependant on the War for oil, depletion of our (now scarce) resources, and destruction of the delicate ecosystem. Additionally, biodiesel is biodegradable, non-toxic and produces about 60% less net-lifecycle carbon dioxide emissions. Believe it or not biodiesel actually 'cleans' the engine, removing deposits in the fuel lines.  The best part is… it’s abundant and possible free! Straight Vegetable Oils and Waste Vegetable Oils from restaurants and fast food chains can be mixed and diluted with both diesel and biodiesel in an diesel burning engine and can be used solely with minor engine modifications. Think our kitchen bus (
 
   I am no expert on biodiesel or the use of vegetable oils, though I feel it is something worth looking into, due to its obvious environmental benefits and cost effectiveness.  I have a friend who a couple of summers ago drove across the country in a van running solely on Vegetable Oils. He claims restaurants are more than willing to give you their Waste Vegetable Oils! This is again, just something to look into. Think, our  kitchen  bus could be one mean, green, vegetable burning machine! 

“In our every deliberation, we must consider the impact of our decisions on the next seven generations.”

                                                                                        The Great Law of
The Iroquois Confederacy

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Impossible without auto?
written by Walt, January 12, 2008
I can't understand the label of "impossible" for acomplishing this walk without autos. Many Peoples had been migrating back and forth accross this county for centuries without the automobile. It would be extreemly difficult without auto, but impoosible? Depends on how much hardship you are willing to endure for your cause. Horses, mules, ox, and carts were very helpful in migrating, and could likely play a role again. Sure, laugh at the notion, but an outragous statement would have more impact on the world. No I wouldn't want to make the walk without the comforts of modern times.
A few months ago it had been suggested that Dennis could provide a bus that an emerging energy company could convert to Bio-fuel. As I understand it, the process is relatively simple and inexpensive. I totaly agree that Bio-fuel is the way to go.
Bio-fuel
written by Tashina, January 13, 2008
I commend you for raising this topic. If anyone has any leads to bio-fuel vehicles that can be donated for use for the duration of the Walk, please follow up with those leads and inform me of your progress. Yes, it has always been a dream of LW organizers to have bio-fuel vehicles - we just have limited manpower to go after them at this point. Thank you for opening this topic - let's see what comes of it!
Bio Fuel
written by Mike Robinson, January 13, 2008
My understanding is that bio-fuel can be used in any diesel engine.. its just only a limited number of gas stations sell bio-fuel at this point. Furthermore Waist Vegetable Oil can also be used in an diesel engine, as mentioned above, with minor modifications.
Bio Fuel comment
written by Joseph, January 15, 2008
I would like to have a diesel automobile to use on this trip. I am volunteering myself and my van to offer support as i can. It is just too expensive for me right now, but this is the way to go and is a goal for the future of not only this walk, but of living in this world.

I did see a special on PBS. Used frying oil can and o=]does work, but as bio fuel stations are starting to refine and sell boi diesel at gas stations, the opportunities to get "free" oil are becoming less and less. There is a bio fuel board and commission. It will be exploited for profit like everything else on this planet. That is not to say we abandon the idea. It still is better environmentally and cost wise.

Better yet, sell your TV and your cars if you can.

Peace to all. See you on the walk.
Great biofuel company in Flagstaff
written by Rudy2, January 25, 2008
Hi all
In flagstaff there is a company that will deliver bio-fuel to you. It is called Mountain Bio-Fuel.

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